Curse

GODh · Mar 12, 2012, 05:34 PM // 17:34

i received the email too... with a broken facebook link (server not found), so no video to watch

Dayquil · Mar 12, 2012, 05:37 PM // 17:37

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Originally Posted by Porkchop Sandwhiches

For some reason getting a video to tease me about probably not getting into beta was harsh on this Monday morning.

This is how I felt this morning

Kityn · Mar 12, 2012, 05:37 PM // 17:37

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Originally Posted by GODh

i received the email too... with a broken facebook link (server not found), so no video to watch

This one works.
https://www.facebook.com/GuildWars2?...55379981174053

Eimai Paok · Mar 12, 2012, 05:48 PM // 17:48

Got the mail too, so in 48 hours they will send the beta invitations

Mercury Angel · Mar 12, 2012, 05:58 PM // 17:58

Usually, a conditionally accessible incentive is portrayed as what it is: An incentive for meeting those conditions. In this case, driving the rating up on the Guild Wars 2 Facebook page by Like-ing it, and automatically referring friends to the page accordingly.

But apparently here, doing so is part of the gift itself?

I don't necessarily disagree that such a thing can be true: Contributing money in a kickstarter pledge drive can be satisfying in and of itself to a worthy project. In the same way, driving ratings of a game, book, movie, web series, etc. can. I've done both, and been thrilled when the project met its goals.
But, an important part of that is the honesty and forthrightness of the party you're helping. This 'invitation' to view the video? It's neither. It's transparent doublespeak.

Edit: That is, it's not,
"Thank you for your interest, and we'd love it if you'd help generate more interest in Guild Wars 2 to make it the best and most successful game we can. We've setup a Facebook page with incentives for Liking it, starting with gameplay footage that has never been made available before!"

But rather,
"Thank you for participating. As a gift for your support, we're giving you access to some exclusive footage available if and only if you drive traffic to our Facebook page by Liking it. Only, we're going to downplay the conditional nature of it, and the ultimate goal of this promotion! Thanks again."

Essence Snow · Mar 12, 2012, 06:03 PM // 18:03

For those like me who don't facebook...

Mercury Angel · Mar 12, 2012, 06:07 PM // 18:07

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Originally Posted by Essence Snow

For those like me who don't facebook...

Is that intended to be released via alternate, unconditionally accessible channels? If so, I rescind the above rant.
If not, did they hijack the video from Facebook and upload it to youtube without permission?

**cosyfiep** · Mar 12, 2012, 06:11 PM // 18:11

thanks essence (since I still wont sign up for facebook and its invasion of privacy)...though not much new in that video either....ah oh well

drkn · Mar 12, 2012, 06:29 PM // 18:29

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If not, did they hijack the video from Facebook and upload it to youtube without permission?

Yes, i think that's the case, but that couldn't be avoided really, and ANet must've been aware of it, making the 'thank you facebook fans' thing only a matter of PR rather than generating some 'exclusive content'.

Mercury Angel · Mar 12, 2012, 06:35 PM // 18:35

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Originally Posted by cosyfiep

thanks essence (since I still wont sign up for facebook and its invasion of privacy)...

Ditto. It's why I take a thing like that seriously. Facebook explicitly exists, from the corporate side, as a means of legally mining data and driving advertising for third parties. If people want to share that information, it's up to them, though I feel they should be aware that it has value. Every bit of your information that is collected, repackaged, and sold is worth cash value. Companies literally pay millions for lists of ~20-30k names and addresses alone for sending junk mail. (You can look up university scandals relating to this, selling the info of alumni and sports game ticket buyers.)

I value my privacy, even if most other consumers don't, and recognize that companies do too. If I were willing to share it for advertising purposes, I'd expect my fair share of the proceeds, at the least, if it's not something I believe in strongly*. (*But even in that case, I'm not open to sharing it with other parties.)

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Originally Posted by drkn

Yes, i think that's the case, but that couldn't be avoided really, and ANet must've been aware of it, making the 'thank you facebook fans' thing only a matter of PR rather than generating some 'exclusive content'.

It'd take pretty draconian measures to make anything like that exclusive in the strictest sense of the word, and even that's no guarantee. In this kind of case, 'exclusivity' would refer to a source being the only official source, rather than literally the only source.

Gabriel of Ravn · Mar 12, 2012, 11:38 PM // 23:38

Thanks for the vid I detest using facebook I deleted my account years back.

Gabs88 · Mar 12, 2012, 11:41 PM // 23:41

Bloody links are unique and go through anet. Almost like they're testing if you registered with a real email account or you're following your email acc closely. Problem is though, the damn links doesnt even work because they're servers are running overdrive...

**cosyfiep** · Mar 13, 2012, 12:07 AM // 00:07

never had a facebook account, and for a beta? aint gonna get one (especially for what tiny amount of info that was in the vid that wasnt listed someplace else).
If they want to see if my email addy is real--they can contact my email provider

Haodu · Mar 13, 2012, 01:27 PM // 13:27

https://buy.guildwars2.com

From the Guild Wars 2 Facebook

"From 10th April, players can pre-purchase the Guild Wars 2 Collector’s, Digital Deluxe or Standard Editions from buy.guildwars2.com or select retailers. All players that pre-purchase Guild Wars 2 will be given access to all upcoming beta events and will be given head start access prior to release. Follow the link for more information about this and our incredible Collector’s Edition!"

I cannot wait to throw infinite money at the collector's edition

EDIT: Some more info and some pics
http://kotaku.com/5892778/the-150-gu...day-head-start

samberum · Mar 13, 2012, 01:42 PM // 13:42

OMG!

Pre-order in 4 weeks!

72 hours early access to get a 'cool' name?

drkn · Mar 13, 2012, 01:43 PM // 13:43

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Originally Posted by samberum

72 hours early access to get a 'cool' name?

Not just 'cool name'. You'll get full access to the game, 3 days before the official release.

**cosyfiep** · Mar 13, 2012, 01:54 PM // 13:54

and yet STILL no date for the release of this game....

agrios · Mar 13, 2012, 02:03 PM // 14:03

Was about time.

Nerel · Mar 13, 2012, 02:11 PM // 14:11

$150 US for the Collectors edition, sounds cool unless you're forced to buy it from NCsoft EU... 129 Pounds... $202 US dollars.

That's the tax you pay for not being American.

Oh well

smotan · Mar 13, 2012, 02:33 PM // 14:33

I'm definitely going for the digital deluxe. The collector's edition is just a rip off that I can't afford.